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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jan 2012 01:14 PM 
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jan 2012 01:29 PM 
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Here we go, ladies and gents....the next missing piece for our VANTAGE puzzle.
VANTAGE ACOUSTIC GUITAR CATALOG from 9/1982
In French!
Printed in Japan for the French distributor "codim-france" in Lyon.
Contains the 1982/83 range of VANTAGE VA guitars.
The VA line is the successor line of the older VW guitars (1979 - 1982/83)

Lot of useful information in the specs sites, hope you can read the tiny letters :wink:
If not, feel free to ask me! My french is a bit rusty, but there's still enough left from what I've learned at school to translate most of the text. :P




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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jan 2012 03:01 PM 
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Thanks, Vantage acoustics turn up around me from time to time. It would be nice to have a primer on which ones were likely to be MIJ when the seller doesn't specify.


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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jan 2012 05:03 AM 
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some infos from the spec sheet:

Types and woods:

VA-10, VA-12 VA-15, VA-20 and VA-25 are "Jumbos" with spruce top and Acajou backs and sides.
VA-30: "Dos bombe" with spruce top and Acajou tropical back and sides
VA-40: "Dos bombe" with spruce top and Ashwood back and sides
VA-40S and VA-50S: "Dos bombe" with solid German Spruce Top and Ashwood backs and sides.
These two models have special bridges for height adjustment!
VA-40CE and VA-40CET: "Dos bombe pan coupe" with spruce tops and ashwood backs and sides.
VA-50 LCE and VA-50 LCET: "Taille folk- pan coupe" with spruce tops and ashwood back and sides.
VA-50 SLC: "taille folk - pan coupe" with solid German spruce top and ashwood back and sides.

S = solid
E = electric
C = cutaway

Dimensions: 101 x 118,5 x 114 mm
VA-40CET: 64 x 81,5 x 77mm
VA-50SLC: 90mm thin
VA-50 LCET: 70mm thin

The chrome tuners are called GS 38 or GS 38X (on the solid models)

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Terrific! Thanks so much for this. :up: :up:
I too have been seeing the occasional VA model and wasn't sure if they were Mats or not.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jan 2012 10:04 AM 
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I just checked my French-English dictionary.

"Acajou" is "mahogany".

"Dos bombe" probably translates as "arched back".

"Pan coupe" means "cut(away) side".

"Taille" also means "cut".

I suspect that "folk" is an Anglicism.

Francophones, please help us out!


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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jan 2012 01:28 PM 
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thanks Bohop!

I believe "taille folk" to be "folk size" = smaller than a jumbo or a dreadnought!
Some kind of an OM or a Grand Auditorium if we think in Martin sizes.

I wonder why they call the VA 10, 12, 20, 25 models "Jumbo"!
They look like ordinary dreadnoughts.
But they do have flat backs, while the VA 30, 40, 50 models are built with "Vantage Full-Sonic" arched backs.
And their necks are made of nato wood, while the necks of the better lines are made of mahogany.

Fretboards on all guitars: (Indian) rosewood

Only the top line (the VA 50s) is built with a fretboard that reaches into the oval soundhole to provide two frets more for the B and E strings (only).

COLORS:
VA-10 LT: natural mat
VA-10 DK: mahogany mat
VA-12: natural mat
VA-15 LT: natural brilliant
VA-15 DK: mahogany brilliant
VA-20: tobacco brown
VA-25: antique brown
VA-30 DOK: dark oak burst
VA-30 ACS: wild cherry burst
VA-40 S: antique violin burst
VA-50 S: antique tobacco burst
(The other models are natural)


Electrics:
VA-40 E, VA-40 12 E: pickup + volume knob
VA-40 CE, VA-40 12 CE, VA-50 LCET: pickup + volume knob + tone knob

Typical for ALL VA models: the oval soundhole

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Terrific info (as usual) again, Mozart :up: :thanks:
I really need one of those E/CE/CET models (for free, or trade against a solid electric Vantage :blush: ).

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French member zagratt34 is helping with the translation! I'm sure his French is better than mine! :D
Merci beaucoup Michel!
:cheers:

here is the link to his site:

http://s1132.photobucket.com/albums/m562/zagratt34/Vantage%20Cats%20Trad/

first specs side! side two will follow :wink: , thanks again for your efforts!

Kees! Could you stickyfy this thread at the start of the Vantage section (at the side of the other "new" cats)?
I didn't find the tools in the mod control panel to fix it....:blush:

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mozart wrote:

Kees! Could you stickyfy this thread at the start of the Vantage section (at the side of the other "new" cats)?
I didn't find the tools in the mod control panel to fix it....:blush:


I've tried, doesn't look like it worked, though...

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