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 Post subject: Re: Avenger.....
PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2012 06:52 AM 
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Chushin?! This is new info, BR; care to elaborate before I go mad? :D

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2012 03:27 PM 
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I can't really elaborate. All I know is that the Chushin connection was mentioned by Peter Patrick of JAM Industries in a letter or email to Mozart, posted here:

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Ahhh, yeah... I'd forgotten that but if the overflow production went to Chushin, would they not have made them to the Uncles recipe?

Re-reading that post, the man says he got his VA912 in 1978???

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I got one or two mails more from Mr.Patrick. (No catalogs so far :( )
He doesn't really remember the Vantage timeline that exactly anymore.
Think he is mixing up the year when it all started (1978) with the year his VA912 is from (1980)!

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As for the symbol on the 1985/86 pickups:
The greek Omega letter = the symbol for electric resistance. So it can be both: an Ohm-sign or just the greek letter....

Chushin:
Might be the reason for the different look of the late 84/85/86 Vantages (letter prefix ser, omega pups, graphlex necks...), but that's just a theory!
Sure MIJ, but I would NOT swear that these late Vantages are Matt made!!!

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More pix....

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... What s the number, do you reckon? Body's in good shape and is very light, really....

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... Odd bridge; no spring tension on the saddles; only that lock bolt, and that sustain block has to be the wimpiest one I have ever seen!! Saddle height non adjustable and the heights are preset to the radius of the fretboard, like the Bendmaster Deluxe on some Westones.

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I read: 59 -8

Neck:
From the ' 84 cat this new avenger was made with a graphlex (= graphite coloured) neck!
Do you "feel" any differences to the necks of older Vantage models?

Odd bridge:
In comparison to the 1980 - 1984 models, all the late Vantages are "cheapos"! They have been available for lower prices! Therefore lower production costs - and that means less features (and maybe a different production place?)

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That all sounds pretty good, man! Yeah, I did wonder about the bridge.... I shall check to see if my spare Bendmasters fit... :D

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Ideas on getting a matte finish to look its best, please?! :) and would the back of the neck been matte or ???

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and would the back of the neck been matte or ???


Hard to tell from the pictures....is the heel of the neck gloss or matt?

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