The Guitar Gallery Forums - The Guitar Legacy of Matsumoku

Hey, I'd like to say thanks in advance for any and all responses this topic gets!

Does anybody out there have pictures and/or wiring diagrams for the bird in question? The issue I'm having is that dropping the tone too far on either p'up will kill the volume completely for both of them when both are on.

I suspect someone before me tried to get creative and instead got creatively wrong, but if anybody has any other theories or possible fixes I'd love to hear them! I'm not terribly enthusiastic about playing with the PCB if I don't have to!

I don't know if this will help, but this is a photo of my 79 Falcon.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4409 ... itydp8.jpg

Interesting. Does that PCB say "YAMAKI"? If so, it would seem some of the Washburns were contracted to the same manufacturer that also made the Daions.

If so this would at least identify the second of the three or more manufacturers that were contracted to produce the Japanese Wahsburns. Matsumoku and Yamaki.

forgive my ignorance (someone should ) But does this mean my Falcon might not be a Matsumoku?

Hey, thanks! Anything helps!

My PCB also says made by Yamaki; I'm curious to know if your '79 Falcon has a number penciled onto the cavity cover. I've heard that this was a common Yamaki/Daion practice; coincidentally, my bird has no official serial number anywhere that I've been able to find, another common Yamaki/Daion occurance.

Then again, Yamaki did make parts for other guitar manufacturers, so that could be a reason for the Yamaki PCB.

Does anybody know of any NON Yamaki PCB's in the Wing series?

The insiders at Washburn made it clear there were a number of manufacturers contracted for the Japanese models, Wings included. Unfortunately they were unable to tell me which manufacturers other than Matsumoku were contracted.

I have an 80's Raven here I am convinced is NOT made by Matsumoku.

Both the inside of the coverplate and the inside of the cavity (as you can see on the photo) are handwritten "159"

Interesting indeed. After reading this i ended up opening the covers of 4 neck-through Wings.. the result: '79 Eagle was Yamaki with hand written numbers in the cavity and on the cover. The other 3 ('80 Hawk, '80 Eagle, '81 Eagle) had no name on the PCB and numbers stamped in the cavity and on the cover. The Yamaki PCB was slightly different from the other 3, a bit narrower copper strips to guide the electricity and also layed out in a different style. Took a pic of 2 boards next to each other but it's still in my phone. Now i'm curious if all pre '80 Wings have Yamaki boards.

I think the numbers on the inside of the control-covers have to do with the production method for the guitars.. on the inside of the cavity in the guitar itself you will find the same number. The parts were probably hand-made (so little variations could occur) , then taken apart for painting, then re-joined for assembly and the number was used to figure out which cover belongs to which guitar.

Crusty, i'm still working on the Wing-specs but it's a slow process since it's a maze and i don't have a lot of time at the moment. Also: a certain series of the early Hawks ('78, '79, with the jack-input on the front of the guitar) come from the same manufacturer as the Ravens.. plastic control covers in the same shape, the same shape trussrod-cover with the sharp points, etc.

Greetz!

Hans.

Here's the pic, the PCB on the right is from the Hawk which doesn't have push-pull pots. The Yamaki-board is a bit messed up as you can see.. a previous owner replaced one of the pots and ripped out the original pups.. bummer.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2886/dsc01017hc7.jpg

That is interesting. Both boards look similar but there are differences.

No worry about the specs and no rush. I am taking my time with it these days myself as summer tasks take a lot of my time now.

Well I gotta say, I never knew anything about yamaki/daion until today. After poking around, I definately see similarities to the daion's and my falcon. The brass ring fret markers. the 3 adj. screw pickups. The bridge etc. How likely is it that these were actually daion?

Oh by the way. here is my falcon.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4396/frontqt7.jpg